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Post by cacau on Jun 11, 2011 7:21:47 GMT -5
ATTENTION! SIGN OF THE MOON SPOILER!
So, for all, who have already read SOTM, the big question:
Who is the fourth next to Jay, Lion and Dove?
I think the favorite is Ivypool. A interesting version would it be mit Hollyleaf, or what do you think?^^
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Post by Mooncloud on Jun 11, 2011 22:33:26 GMT -5
Ivypool for 3 reasons
1. Ivypool is the one who is discovering why cats are joining the Dark Forest (loneliness, revenge, cats just wanting attention). She can use this to keep her clanmates out of this and talk others out of it.
2. We were promised in Erin Hunter Chat 7 Ivypool would play more of a central role in the 2nd half of the current series.
3. Ivy Poole is the daughter of a friend of Erin Hunter. Chances are her character will be more than important.
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Post by Skystar on Jun 15, 2011 20:28:56 GMT -5
Ivypool or Hollyleaf. Though Hollyleaf may be completely crazy now ^_^
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Post by Mooncloud on Jun 15, 2011 23:02:41 GMT -5
If that was her (which I'm pretty sure it was) that guided Ivy and Blossom out of the tunnel, I think Holly's feeling self loathing. She will likely come back to be a problem.
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Post by Skystar on Jun 16, 2011 7:25:00 GMT -5
That's what I think too.
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Post by cacau on Jun 16, 2011 9:36:09 GMT -5
If that was her (which I'm pretty sure it was) that guided Ivy and Blossom out of the tunnel, I think Holly's feeling self loathing. She will likely come back to be a problem. Yeah, I´m agree too. But I doesn´t hope that she´ll be a problem. Hollyleaf as the new ThunderClan Leader would be sooo cool 8) |
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Post by Mooncloud on Jun 16, 2011 22:43:15 GMT -5
If Hollyleaf is still the same cat, Hollystar is a very scary concept.
Hollyleaf killed Ashfur for the same reason Tigerstar killed Redtail. She felt she deserved to be leader and Ashfur was an obstacle (she admitted that to her littermates)
And, just like Tigerstar, she tried to get away with it by blaming it on another cat. In the process of covering it up she almost got her clanmate killed (Brakenfur almost drowned and Brambleclaw almost joined him)
She had no respect for her clan then, and the tunnels wouldn't have changed anything (Rock wouldn't give her counseling and Fallen Leaves doesn't know about betrayal and murder, only abandonment and loneliness)
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Post by amberfire3 on Jun 17, 2011 2:44:37 GMT -5
aw but I'd like to see her apologize cause that would be awesome as a cliffhanger at the end of TFW:
Suddenly Jayfeather heard a rustling in the bushes.
"Who's there?" he called out suspiciously.
He smelt the air. There was that familiar scent! A tang of water and stone, and a little like holly in Leaf-Bare...
Hollyleaf!
"H-Hollyleaf?"
She rose out of the bracken, dark as a shadow.
"Jayfeather... I just wanted to say..." she started. Tears glazed her eyes.
"I'm sorry."
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Post by Mooncloud on Jun 17, 2011 21:08:38 GMT -5
I would love her to apologize... but to the entire clan. not sure if they'd want her around after that, but it's the right thing to do.
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Post by Skystar on Jun 18, 2011 8:56:05 GMT -5
Nice ending Amberfire, though I must say that would really annoy me if that actually happened. Then I would have to wait until the next book,.
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Post by Mooncloud on Jun 18, 2011 21:33:42 GMT -5
...have to agree with that Skystar.
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Post by chinapro2000 on Jul 7, 2011 8:47:34 GMT -5
If Hollyleaf is still the same cat, Hollystar is a very scary concept. Hollyleaf killed Ashfur for the same reason Tigerstar killed Redtail. She felt she deserved to be leader and Ashfur was an obstacle (she admitted that to her littermates) And, just like Tigerstar, she tried to get away with it by blaming it on another cat. In the process of covering it up she almost got her clanmate killed (Brakenfur almost drowned and Brambleclaw almost joined him) She had no respect for her clan then, and the tunnels wouldn't have changed anything (Rock wouldn't give her counseling and Fallen Leaves doesn't know about betrayal and murder, only abandonment and loneliness) To some extent, I agree with you. Let's not forget she tried to run away from ThunderClan because she was so ashamed that she was actually alive because of her mother breaking the warrior code. But I think there are two main reasons why she killed Ashfur. 1, what you said. The same reason thath Tigerclaw killed Redtail--power. But 2, because she was afraid of Ashfur--what he might do to Squirrelflight and Leafpool--also to her and her littermates. At least, that's what I think. I mean, I'd be scared too if somebody was plotting to kill you because your mother you found out isn't really your mother, your "mother's" sister is your mother, and because of some drama that went on before you were born. But Hollyleaf DID have some "Tigerstar" in her. If Hollyleaf comes back and eventually becomes Hollystar as the same cat she was before she ran to the tunnels, then I'd be scared for the wellbeing of Thunderclan. But I think it's going to be Ivypool--she's done so much more than running to the tunnels to escape from the past. She has had the courage to act as if she was completely loyal to the Dark Forest--and act as a spy for three cats completely on the side of Starclan. It WOULD be exciting if Jayfeather and Lionblaze found their long lost sister and brought her back to the clan though--even though I wouldn't want her to become a leader or join Lionblaze, Doveflight, and Jayfeather. |
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Post by chinapro2000 on Jul 7, 2011 8:51:58 GMT -5
Or this would be good, Amberfire:
Jayfeather padded around the tunnels, familiarizing himself with his surroundings. Just then, he caught a scent of something familiar. Something he had smelled snuggled beside him in the nursery.
"Jayfeather?" said a familiar voice.
"Hollyleaf? Is that you?!" Jayfeather mewed, his voice filled with excitement.
"Yes, it's me...your sister. A-And I'm sorry."
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Post by Mooncloud on Jul 11, 2011 12:12:37 GMT -5
Hollyleaf wasn't afraid about what Ashfur would do to Squirrelflight. In fact she thought her foster mother would deserve whatever happened to her.
At the time that she killed Ashfur, Holly didn't know who gave birth to her (only that it wasn't Squirrelflight). She was, however, scared about her position in the clan after the truth came out.
I would love for Hollyleaf to come back to the clan... but I want her to tell the truth.
(like your scenario chinapro2000)
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Post by Fireblaze on Jul 13, 2011 14:35:09 GMT -5
Guess what? The Fourth cat is NOT Hollyleaf.
If you read the blurb for The Last Hope, it says that they are still looking for the fourth.
But Hollyleaf appears in The Forgotten Warrior!
i could be wrong, but you never know?
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