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Post by Mooncloud on Oct 19, 2011 14:04:54 GMT -5
Your thoughts?
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Post by amberfire3 on Nov 6, 2011 3:50:28 GMT -5
He really should forgive her. What if it was Tawnypelt? Jeez Louise. I think he's over exaggerating.
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Post by Mooncloud on Nov 6, 2011 20:15:40 GMT -5
I think it's more than that. Brambleclaw has been hurt and betrayed one too many times. Squirrelflight's betrayal probably makes him question if he should trust anyone to be his friend now.
If you look back on all the books, he looks up to Firestar the most, but Firestar didn't trust him because of Tigerstar (stupid Firestar. Biggest issue I have with that furball). Tawnypelt never told him about leaving Thunderclan before she ditched. And Bramble's closest/best friends are all in different clans. And then his father and Hawk had to go and betray him.
I'm willing to bet that he wish he could turn back time to the journey to find Midnight. That seemed to be the happiest time in his life. Stormfur is easily his best friend, but he is nowhere near the lake anymore.
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Post by Cloudskye on Nov 7, 2011 14:23:21 GMT -5
He really should forgive her. What if it was Tawnypelt? Jeez Louise. I think he's over exaggerating. I don't think he's over-exaggerating at all. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to forgive someone that lied to him. He was lied to about his kits, which weren't his. Can you imagine the rage and pain he must have felt, to find out that he was lied to about three cats he probably loved more then life himself? He was so proud of them, and was glad they were his. But, to find out that he was lied to for the past moons, it's bound to hurt him. |
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Post by dawnfire111 on Dec 30, 2011 21:51:46 GMT -5
He suffered yes but so did Squirellflight and Leafpool. Not to mention Jayfeather Lionblaze and Hollyleaf. Hollyleafy so much she ran away. Brambleclaw doesnt have to be her mate again just be friend. She is lonely too.
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Post by Mooncloud on Dec 30, 2011 23:55:18 GMT -5
*SPOILER*
I was glad to see him step in for Hollyleaf (but not the lie he told). The one question I've wanted answered was what's been going on in Brambleclaw's head since "Sunrise". He's been my favorite character since he was a kit and I want to know more about his feelings on the topic.
The only thing we've had to go on was that he's mad at Squirrelflight. He doesn't hang around Jayfeather or Lionblaze and it seems those two really want his attention (who could blame them?) So why is he avoiding them?
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Post by dawnfire111 on Dec 31, 2011 16:09:58 GMT -5
I want to know what he is thinking too. Maybe he stays away from Jayfeather and Lionblaze because they are a reminder of Squirellflight's betrayal. I believe he still cares for all of them (Squirellflight too) but keeps it hidden. It pops out at times like when he lied for Hollyleaf. I wonder if Brambleclaw is wishing to be back in the mountains with Stormfur, Feathertail, Tawnypelt and Squirellflight.
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Post by Mooncloud on Jan 1, 2012 0:08:19 GMT -5
I'd want that. The time that he was happiest was when they traveled to meet Midnight. I half expected him to leave the clans for good when they got to the lake.
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Post by dawnfire111 on Jan 1, 2012 16:16:49 GMT -5
He probally would have but he couldn't leave the clan without a deputy and cats would bad mouth him forever. Brambleclaw is a great cat but everyone has flaws, so he might not be as loyal as everyone says.
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Post by Mooncloud on Jan 4, 2012 15:05:29 GMT -5
Sure he could. They'd just pick another one. His grandfather left the clan without a leader and Sunfall took over no problem.
As far as what others would think of him: he was already convinced they'd never trust him, never be a true clan to him, so why should he care what they think.
Brambleclaw is one awesome furball but just full of tragedy and by far one of the most interesting characters in the book. But then everyone has a breaking point where they just can't take anymore. I don't see any cat being his best friend and that makes things worse.
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Post by Leopardheart on Jan 4, 2012 21:28:32 GMT -5
It does seem to show that he has his points of anger though. When Bumblestripe wanted to be on a border or hunting patrol. (forgot which one) Brambleclaw got angry for Ivy and Bumble switching patrols. I personally thought that was funny though. All characters even ALMIGHTY Firestar has issues.
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Post by Mooncloud on Jan 7, 2012 22:50:36 GMT -5
Irritated, not angry. Only time I see him angry is when he's around Squirrelflight or dealing with another clan.
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Post by Mooncloud on Apr 17, 2012 11:32:13 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT for Book 6
He forgave her... YEA!!!
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Post by russetsun on May 29, 2013 20:06:10 GMT -5
I think he should forgive her, but I don't think they should be mates again. To me, Squirrelflight just seems desperate. Sure, she has suffered, but so has a bunch of other characters, some cases are even worse than hers.
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