StarClan vs. Dark Forest

[insaneular]

Okay. So if you all have read TFA... apparently StarClan's going to war with the Dark Forest? This will likely bring some drama, but I have to say: WTF? First of all, how can dead cats go to war... I mean, I know their spirits hang around and can watch what goes on in the living world, but if dead cats can still fight, kill, etc... doesn't that mean there's no point in staying alive, e.g., cats are immortal? this really makes me think they're reaching for ideas. But let's disregard that for now, and ask, just WHY Lionblaze and Jayfeather are so dang concerned about this war. Let's just take a head count of each side, hmm?

Dark Forest:
Tigerstar
Hawkfrost
Brokentail
Darkstripe
Breezepelt
Possibly Clawface, Ashfur, Hollyleaf, Tigerheart, and others they can try recruiting...

StarClan:
All the other warriors that have died since the Clans were founded (Hundreds)
All the living cats except the aforementioned and any the Dark Forest manages to recruit

Hrm. The Dark Forest would have to recruit an awful lot of cats to even get a fraction of the amount of warriors StarClan has. So why is this such a problem? With hundreds of warriors, shouldn't it be a piece of cake to re-kill a few villians who won't stay dead? I really hope that there's a bit more to this plotline than just an all out war, because as of yet it makes no sense whatsoever. What do the rest of you think about it?

[-->syd<--]

I agree there are so many good cats compared to the bad ones, and the evil ones may be good fighters but are way outnumbered...

[ravenflight92]

I think that Tigerstar will try to recruit Tigerheart for the Dark Forest, but he'll fight for StarClan because he loves Dovepaw.

[songbird808]

We're assuming that only Clan cats go to the Dark Forest. I have to assume that all of Bloodclan is roaming down there. And simply because they aren't named doesn't mean there aren't swells of other evil cats in the Dark Forest.

And maybe Tigerstar has some evil, magic powers of doom or something. Who knows.

[Sunnyfrost]

yeah. and also, didn't it cross though anyones mind that THISTLECLAW might be in there??
and maybe some cats from the past are roaming in there. cats we never heard of.

i mean, BloodClan, Tigerstar, etc. probably aren't the only totally bad cats in the history of the Clans, so why wouldn't other cats be there?

[DiesIrae (Admin)]

May 17, 2010 19:42:47 GMT -5 Sunnyfrost said:

yeah. and also, didn't it cross though anyones mind that THISTLECLAW might be in there??
and maybe some cats from the past are roaming in there. cats we never heard of.

i mean, BloodClan, Tigerstar, etc. probably aren't the only totally bad cats in the history of the Clans, so why wouldn't other cats be there?

Yeah, but consider the fact that most "outside cats" (non clan-associated) don't believe in starclan. So they probably wouldn't believe in the dark forest either. That would make it a whole lot harder to recruit them. So there probably aren't a bunch of non-clan cats. Or bloodclan, for that matter. No Starclan means no Dark Forest.

[Sunnyfrost]

i mean CLAN cats Bramblestar. Like there will probably be murder cats that we never heard of. The Clans didn't just magically start with Into the Wild or BP.

[DiesIrae (Admin)]

Yeah, but Bloodclan isn't included.
I see your point though. Still, DF is painfully outnumbered. There are only a handful of evil cats throughout the clan histories.

[Sunnyfrost]

true...

maybe they have some "mystical power" or something. and theres no telling when more cats will go there. maybe some cats from SkyClan are there.

but i know. even if there WERE SkyClan cats in the Dark Forest, they would still be outnumbered. is there a StarClan #2 or something? where StarClan cats die?

will we see Snowfur in the battle?!??!!?!?!?!?!??!? ;D i hope so, she was one of my favorite cats in BP. along with Thrushpelt. i hope we see them ;D

[Maplefern]

LOL, maybe.

Also, countless cats could be in the Dark Forest, without us even knowing it.

[Sunnyfrost]

i knows, thats what ive been saying the past 2 posts. :-\

[squirrelflight]

Maybe the StarClan vs. Dark forest will put the living cats at war.
(like in The Darkest Hour)

[Blizzardpelt]

that's like fighting 100 to 1. There no chance the Dark Forest could win.

[Sunnyfrost]

see! proof! in Fading Echoes, it says somewhere, this:

Jayfeather began to realize that other pelts were paler too. Some were so ghostly they hardly seemed there at all. *yadda yadda yadda* "Not even the stars last forever. All cats fade and disappear eventually"

so most of the StarClan cats are long gone. cats like Poppycloud, Cedarstar, and other really really really old cats are probably not there anymore. all that is probably there is the present cats that we know, and a few others.

so, for all we know, there can be like
spottedleaf
redtail
silverstream
yellowfang
bluestar
feathertail
longtail
honeyfern
lionheart
whitestorm
molekit
leapordstar
nightstar
tallstar

and a few others i forgot to mention. and in the Dark Forest there is

Tigerstar
Hawkfrost
Darkstripe
Brokenstar/tail
Snowtuft
Shreadtail
Ivypaw (possibly)
Tigerheart (possibly)
Breezepelt
and other cats that could be from SkyClan

not as outnumbered anymore, eh?

[Rosestar]

Let's see here...
StarClan

Spottedleaf
Bluestar
Whitestorm
Feathertail
Honeyfern
Yellowfang
Thunder
Redtail
Brindleface
Swiftpaw
etc.....

Dark Forest

Tigerstar
Tigerheart
Hawkfrost
Brokentail/star
Breezepelt
Thistleclaw
Mapleshade
Snowtuft
Shredtail
Ashfur, mabye
Hollyleaf, probably
etc...